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Postal
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Topic started on 01/07/2006 at 2:15:45 PM  Member Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got my new 06 Xr650L and it's almost time for it's first oil change. Would like suggestions on what type of oil I should use in it.

06 XR650L - DJ spring, 58/162 Keihin jets, slide drilled 5/32, screw out 1 1/2, stock needle shimmed .028, De-smorkled, UNI filter, SuperTrapp IDS2 Quiet Series w/9 discs, stock header.

walleye5
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Posted on 01/07/2006 at 7:25:48 PM  Member Profile  Reply with Quote
Put Honda oil in there and stick w/it.

You have a good bike.

Later,

Bob

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b_king
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Posted on 01/08/2006 at 06:16:05 AM  Member Profile  Click to see b_king's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's all a matter of personal preferance to me. I could be using the cheapo Castrol stuff from Canadian Tire, but I choose to put the $13/L Amsoil High Performance Motorcycle Oil, full synth. in my XR400R. If you were debating wether or not to use syn. oil, don't during break-in, and give it atleast 2 oil changes after the recommended break-in period of just regular oil. This is my 2 cents worth. Yes, Honda GN4 is great stuff, but I have always used Amsoil in my bikes with no problems yet. Good luck with the bike!

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Rotorcraft
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Posted on 01/08/2006 at 8:29:56 PM  Member Profile  Visit Rotorcraft's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It all depends on how much you want to spend at oil changes. But in reality it's how often do you change it I use valvoline 20w-50 motorcycle oil at 3 bucks a quart, but I change it every 1000 miles, filter every other oil change. I've read that syn oil will lower your oil temps don't know that first hand the valvoline I use is petreoleum based. Any way you go it all comes back to is how much you want to spend at oil changes.


01 XR650L - 9K miles, custom oil cooler, homemade oil temp dip stick, Dave's carb mods: slide drilled 5/32", needle shimmed .029", 55 short pilot, 158 main, 2 turns out (Thx Dave), K&N filter, removed: snorkle, exhaust baffle, smog stuff. Sea level riding. Valvoline 10W-40 mc oil.
- Past bikes: 74 MR50, 83 XR200, 78 KZ650
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Jlutty650L
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Posted on 01/14/2006 at 6:31:00 PM  Member Profile  Reply with Quote
Honda GN4 makes sense to me. As long as it takes to put 2000 miles on it, why not just go with factory oil at the factory interval?

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KingTutt
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Posted on 01/15/2006 at 08:29:38 AM  Member Profile  Visit KingTutt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just changed to Mobile 1 XR4T Full synthetic motorcycle oil. 8.95 per quart at Kragen. I couldn't find Amsoil anywhere.

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b_king
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Posted on 01/15/2006 at 3:33:38 PM  Member Profile  Click to see b_king's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
KingTutt, it would have been cool if you rode an XR4!

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cracked junior
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Posted on 01/15/2006 at 4:12:34 PM  Member Profile  Visit cracked junior's Homepage  Send cracked junior a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
when i first seen that oil kingtut is using. i thought he meant he changed to a xr400. but reread it and the oil is xr4

05 XR650L - Dave's carb mods, needle shimmed .024, 160/55, ceramic coated headpipe w/welds ground, fmf quiet exh, snorkle & smog junk gone, tkc80 rear tire, chopped xr400 front fender, 15/45 sprockets.
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Rotorcraft
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Posted on 01/15/2006 at 5:51:05 PM  Member Profile  Visit Rotorcraft's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Honda dosen't make their own oil. I'm sure its a good quality oil made by a major manufacturer. I chose to go with Valvoline, they have proven themselves to be one of the best manufactures out there. I have been running with Valvoline products from gear oil, engine oil, ATF fluid, brake fluid, and whatever else may be used in my vehicles with great results. I have a 1995 Dodge Dakota 4X4 318 5 speed club cab with 170,000 on it and have used Valvoline oil (not syn) since new. Changed it every 3000 miles and have found it will use very little oil between oil changes. I will always use Valvoline in all my vehicles, motorcycle included.

01 XR650L - 9K miles, custom oil cooler, homemade oil temp dip stick, Dave's carb mods: slide drilled 5/32", needle shimmed .029", 55 short pilot, 158 main, 2 turns out (Thx Dave), K&N filter, removed: snorkle, exhaust baffle, smog stuff. Sea level riding. Valvoline 10W-40 mc oil.
- Past bikes: 74 MR50, 83 XR200, 78 KZ650
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KingTutt
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Posted on 01/15/2006 at 8:22:59 PM  Member Profile  Visit KingTutt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, 10-40 Mobile 1 XR4T High Perf Synthetic Motorcycle Oil. Sorry for the XR4 confussion. To be honest, I didn't even want another bike until a good friend said he was gonna buy a new Triunph or some kind of street bike. I told him he should get a enduro cause an old Army buddy of mine had one and I thought it was cool to be able to go off in the dirt too. So I researched bikes for him and during that process fell in love with the idea myself. Now to the point If they sold a street legal XR400 I would have bought that instead because of the size. The XR650L is quite big and tall for me and is nearly double my weight. But as it happens, I do love the BRP and will probably never get rid of it.

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Postal
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Posted on 01/16/2006 at 10:48:08 AM  Member Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I'll give the Mobile 1 synthetic a try.

King Tutt how offten are you going to change your oil now that you use sythetic?

06 XR650L - DJ spring, 58/162 Keihin jets, slide drilled 5/32, screw out 1 1/2, stock needle shimmed .028, De-smorkled, UNI filter, SuperTrapp IDS2 Quiet Series w/9 discs, stock header.

sledgehammer
04 XR650L

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Posted on 01/16/2006 at 3:32:42 PM  Member Profile  Reply with Quote
King Tutt,
If you need Amsoil, let me know. My neighboor sells it, or I think you can order it online. I use it in my vehicles(93 Explorer w/ 97k) and will be switching on the Honda shortly. I want to establish a baseline temp to compare after I switch. I expect a drop of 10-20'. People switching to syn. oil, beware friction modifiers,don't use if it has that in there,but you probably know that.

2004 XR650L - Dave's carb mods, Clarke 4 gal tank,BD skid plate, 14t/45t, IMS block-off kit, 4-strokes only taillight, MT 21 tires (140 rear), Uni filter, snorkle & baffle removed, Moose number plate bag, XRr Only Temp dipstick, IMS Superstock pegs, Dual Star mirror, Moose magnetic drain plug.

KingTutt
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Posted on 01/17/2006 at 09:44:08 AM  Member Profile  Visit KingTutt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
King Tutt how offten are you going to change your oil now that you use sythetic?
I'll start thinking about it at 1500 miles. But before 2000 for sure.

sledgehammer, thanks. I might take you up on that when summer comes and I want to change to 20/50. Kragen only had 10/40 in the Mobile 1 motorcycle oil. If I can't get it in 20/50 I'll look you up.

As to the difference in oil temp with full synth, it is noticable. I went for a short ride yesterday. Ambient temp outside was approx 65. After 15 minutes my oil temp was only 200ish. Normally around 220 with the old motul petrolium based oil.
I would suggest getting a synthetic that is made for motorcycles. That way there's no worries about the "moly" additives that are bad for the clutch.

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Jlutty650L
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Posted on 06/28/2006 at 12:35:22 AM  Member Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sledgehammer

King Tutt,
If you need Amsoil, let me know. My neighboor sells it, or I think you can order it online. I use it in my vehicles(93 Explorer w/ 97k) and will be switching on the Honda shortly. I want to establish a baseline temp to compare after I switch. I expect a drop of 10-20'. People switching to syn. oil, beware friction modifiers,don't use if it has that in there,but you probably know that.

Sledge-

Did your temps drop?

04 XR650L

XXL on a XL
Chehalis, WA

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Posted on 06/28/2006 at 01:31:55 AM  Member Profile  Reply with Quote
I just switched my 87'xl600r over to Full synthetic. I used Lucas Oil Products, 20W-50 Full Synth High Performance Motorcycle Oil. I noticed that it does in fact run cooler, and I believe the bike pulls harder. Shifts smoother also. I think its worth the piece of mind.

87 XL600R - New motor, 11:1 Wiseco piston, oem crank, bearings, head work, valves, mild port, Supertrapp w/FMF headpipe, Uni, jetting, Kings tires f&r.
92 Z50R - 88cc stg3 FastTrails, Plus 1 suspension, fast50's pipe, Baja Designs stator, Hella 500 - Little Loud and Fast!
93 Z50R Bigfoot Trail - 72cc ported big cam big carb, baja designs stator, Hella Light Bar, ECT - Stealthy Fast!

KingTutt
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Posted on 06/28/2006 at 05:01:20 AM  Member Profile  Visit KingTutt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by XXL on a XL

I just switched my 87'xl600r over to Full synthetic. I used Lucas Oil Products, 20W-50 Full Synth High Performance Motorcycle Oil. I noticed that it does in fact run cooler, and I believe the bike pulls harder. Shifts smoother also. I think its worth the piece of mind.
Ditto! Lucas makes good stuff.

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