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procycletech
Michigan
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Posted on 11/03/2009 at 05:55:24 AM
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Originally posted by kubiak
i dont think i can do over 97,000 like i did on my 83 xl600 though.
Did your XL have an oil cooler to run that many miles?
I'm glad you coughed up the change for a new cam chain. |
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JD
San Diego, CA
USA
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Posted on 11/03/2009 at 08:35:38 AM
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kubiak
Madera, CA
USA
5202 Posts |
Posted on 11/03/2009 at 08:53:25 AM
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| my 83 xl600 was bone stock except i put a one size bigger pilot jet and clutch plates around 60,000.the thing ran perfect all the way till the shifter shaft snapped off!i also used castrol gtx car oil the whole time too. i use it in my xrl but i think i might have done a little damage when i ran 20-50 in it for awhile, it started rattling after that. i only run the 10-40 now. |
89 XR600R Motard - XR600R Left, XR600R Rear, XR600R Right, Dual Sport
06 XR650L Motard - XR650L Motard I, XR650L Motard II, New Colors I, New Colors II, Oil Cooler, New Pipe
06 XT225 - The wife's bike |
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procycletech
Michigan
USA
60 Posts |
Posted on 11/03/2009 at 11:17:45 AM
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Originally posted by JD
How can I tell if my timing chain is worn beyond limit?
what you do is grab the chain on one end and see how much it bends or arches, I'll check the service limit for you unless you have a manual. |
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procycletech
Michigan
USA
60 Posts |
Posted on 11/03/2009 at 11:21:29 AM
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Originally posted by kubiak
my 83 xl600 was bone stock except i put a one size bigger pilot jet and clutch plates around 60,000.the thing ran perfect all the way till the shifter shaft snapped off!i also used castrol gtx car oil the whole time too. i use it in my xrl but i think i might have done a little damage when i ran 20-50 in it for awhile, it started rattling after that. i only run the 10-40 now.
Thay's amazing with no air wings or cooler, I think the XRL will go that far if you use the 5/40 rotella T syn.
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kubiak
Madera, CA
USA
5202 Posts |
Posted on 11/03/2009 at 2:31:25 PM
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| procycletech, yea it would run longer with better oil but i'm so cheap and i have 6 more cases of castrol 10-40 to burn up! do you think i should change it sooner that every 1,000 miles? i used to change it between 500 and 750 miles but i have been doing it every 1,000 for the last few years.hope my parts come in the next few days! |
89 XR600R Motard - XR600R Left, XR600R Rear, XR600R Right, Dual Sport
06 XR650L Motard - XR650L Motard I, XR650L Motard II, New Colors I, New Colors II, Oil Cooler, New Pipe
06 XT225 - The wife's bike |
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procycletech
Michigan
USA
60 Posts |
Posted on 11/04/2009 at 03:46:39 AM
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I think 1000 miles would be max mileage using the GTX car oil or any oil for that matter.
The problem with these bikes is the low oil capacity, that's where another oil tank would be nice that would hold 2 or 3 more qts of oil.
You could install it like you did your spare fuel tank you built back where the battery once was.
The plumbing would be easy, no different than hooking up an oil cooler.If you remember,the old Yamaha xt600's had an oil tank located in the back of the bike like that. I'm building a low pipe for my new bike so I'm going to put my oil tank where the old muffler was located and plumb it like you would an oil cooler.
What keeps oil cool is flow,the more the oil is pushed and kept moving the more the oil cools.Have you ever tried to boil running water? The GB500's and XBR600 RFVC motors all have oil tanks. |
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kubiak
Madera, CA
USA
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procycletech
Michigan
USA
60 Posts |
Posted on 11/04/2009 at 1:38:19 PM
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| I got a call in for the cyclewizard on the oem pump, I'll have a answer for you in a few days when he gets back to me. |
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Old dog
Yellowknife
Canada
299 Posts |
Posted on 11/04/2009 at 3:23:03 PM
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Originally posted by kubiak
im running a power steering cooler on my bike to cool the oil. its been on there for 42,000 miles and works great. i was thinking about adding a cooler for more oil capacity but was wondering if the oilpump would push it ok. the oil cooler i use now is a simple straight 3/8 tube design with fins on it.what do you think?
I don't think it matters how much oil is in the system, because the pump is blind to the volume it's pumping ... it just keeps on pumping at the same rate no matter how much oil is fed into it. I think the only way you'd put more strain on the pump would be to add a significant amount of larger diameter oil line to the bike.  |
2006 XR650L ~ 4.7 Clarke Tank, Billet Aluminum Tusk Gas Cap, Big Gun Evo-X Muffler, FMF PB Header, UNI Filter, De-Smogged, Moose S/S x-wide pegs, Kouba Lowering Link, BD LED Tail Light, Maier Rear Fender, Dual Headlights, Buell Lightning Bug Screen, SuperBrace fork stabilizer, Acerbis Rally Pro Handguards, Dirstskins Fork Seal Protectors, Steahl Bash Plate, XRs Only Case Saver, Corbin Seat, Custom Bodged High Riser K & N Stand Alone Crankcase Breather, Sudco 41mm FCR carb w/Motion Pro custom cables & throttle. East Coast Wheels Sumo wheels, Acerbis Supermoto frnt fender, MSR Billet Aluminum rear rotor shark fin, Scott's Steering Damper ~ |
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procycletech
Michigan
USA
60 Posts |
Posted on 11/04/2009 at 4:13:36 PM
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Take a look at the Buells oiling system, the swingarm is the oil tank which is pretty darn trick in my book.
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procycletech
Michigan
USA
60 Posts |
Posted on 11/04/2009 at 5:03:13 PM
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Originally posted by kubiak
im running a power steering cooler on my bike to cool the oil. its been on there for 42,000 miles and works great. i was thinking about adding a cooler for more oil capacity but was wondering if the oilpump would push it ok. the oil cooler i use now is a simple straight 3/8 tube design with fins on it.what do you think?
Make sure you inspect your head for cracks around the spark plug hole and valve seats. |
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kubiak
Madera, CA
USA
5202 Posts |
Posted on 11/04/2009 at 6:59:02 PM
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| i got my parts back today and was ready to reasemble then............. the honda shop ordered everything for a xr650R!man what next! i got the honda shop to overnight the right parts so i should have them friday. my cam sure had some weird wear, the tops of the lobes had pits and holes in them and messed up the exhaust rockers? the intake lobes just started to get the pits on the tips. what would cause that? im going to take the decompressor unit apart and inspect that too since i can shake it around and rattle it. |
89 XR600R Motard - XR600R Left, XR600R Rear, XR600R Right, Dual Sport
06 XR650L Motard - XR650L Motard I, XR650L Motard II, New Colors I, New Colors II, Oil Cooler, New Pipe
06 XT225 - The wife's bike |
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vivianm
Wellington
New Zealand
225 Posts |
Posted on 11/04/2009 at 9:49:15 PM
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Originally posted by kubiak
i got my parts back today and was ready to reasemble then............. the honda shop ordered everything for a xr650R!
losers...what next indeed! |
1998 XR650L - Dave's carb (160 main jet) mods, desnorkel, Cobra exhaust, 14/40T (15/40 for long rides 14/40 for everyday, 13/40 for dirt), IMS tank, Wiseco 10.25 comp, Trailtech Viper. tkc80's, oxford hot grips, custom windscreen, custom rack
braided steel brakelines, custom temp guage. Rox risers. |
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procycletech
Michigan
USA
60 Posts |
Posted on 11/05/2009 at 06:02:44 AM
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Lack of oil and zddp is what galls the camshaft.
You need to drill the top banjo bolt like the bottom one. If you look at the parts # on a RS600 HRC motor they use the same bolt top and bottom, on a xrl the top one only has a pin hole in it. |
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I'm going mental - hotcam or not! for '98 XR650L
